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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: Freeman on August 17, 2011, 01:25 am
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I was reading up on the synergy between the two substances and it sounds like a really enjoyable time. Some people said it was like the best of both substances with little of the negatives. Typical dosage seems to be Init 100-150mg MDMA then 100-150mg of MDA as the MDMA begins to come on strong (the +1-+2 hour mark). There was also some speculation that some of the most popular "classic" ecstasy pills actually contained this combination. Has anyone tried this?
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No I have not tried this but I would be more than happy to try an experiment with you.
:D
nomad bloodbath
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No I have not tried this but I would be more than happy to try an experiment with you.
:D
nomad bloodbath
Hmmm, I've already got plans for when I've ordered...I do plan on trying the combo and I'll update here with my experience. I'm sure there will be future opportunities for you and I would like to hear feedback on it from someone with your experience.
I treat the MDxx drugs with a lot of caution due to concerns about neurotoxicity and especially "losing the magic". I don't mind LSD or mushrooms more than once a week but I try to wait at least 2-3 weeks between MDxx. Am I being over cautious? It seems like you do this more often so I'm curious about your level of caution and concern.
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imo the longer you can wait between mdma sessions the better, based on not much id say wait minimum 2 weeks between and 4 weeks would be better. post dosing 5htp could reduce that aswell
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Ok, after a lot of tests I can believe now that this what arrived from NL to me is a high quality MDMA.
I have done some research and I'm trying to explain what is going on - maybe I'm wrong and maybe not.
Everything begins at 2007/2008 - depends on a region in Poland, when availability of high-quality product like a crystal MDMA or even good quality pills is a problem until now. It's hard to buy anyway.
For a last years I did not found MDMA based pill, always some shitty-based product.
(Few weeks ago, my friend bought 3 pills and seller says that it's best pill he ever had "fucking awesome MDMA trip".
http://4eiruntyxxbgfv7o.onion/imgzapr/upload/mesie_biale_zakrapiane_na_pomaranczowo__malopolska_2011_08.jpg
I took half and tried. It was NOT MDMA, but some shit 2C-B or pFPP based - who cares... I really don't like it and feel really bad so I'm trying to forgot about it.)
So most people decided to take a ride on a drugs from RC market and they are doing this until now.
I think they are expecting now, trips like on a drugs from RC.
Okay for them, their choice.
But I believe, that quality drugs are more safety for human body that unknown RC drugs.
Let's take a look closer on bk-MDMA(Methylone).
I have observed that this one is a nice shot to turn on Loss of Magic effect, even if a trip is shorten then MDMA, they get it to much to keep effect during party or whatever...
So I have decided to make some experiments.
I will paste some quotes:
1. No euphoric effect after MDMA? - Some tests on a girls.
Yesterday I personally gave MDMA around 100mg dose to two girls
with a weight around ~55kg and 24 years old. So MDMA dose was okey
These girls are not experienced MDMA feelings.
Note: they takes drugs from time to time - maybe two times in a year.
[..cut..]
Unfortunately, these girls strongly says, that it is working no-euphoric
and only empathetical! ..for them.
The funny thing is, that one girl who never tried MDMA, said that
bk-MDMA(Methylone) is better...
and second one, who tried MDMA many times, but few years ago,
said that's not the same as it should be.
So I don't know what is going on, I'm little bit dissapointed.
Maybe it's a real MDMA, but somekind of evolution, DNA
transcription is changing people, and they do not accept MDMA
(here) anymore. I don't know.
BTW: I have observed that small amount of amphetamine ~50-70mg in
same time with MDMA 112mg increase effects.
1) People do not falling asleep and feel fine.
2) They want to talk with others...
3) They DO NOT EVER THINK about next dose!!!! (That's really okey.)
... but still there is no euphoric effect :(
For this time I really don't know what to do, especially when
shitty bk-MDMA known as Methylone has better effects. WTF?!?
2. MDMA+Amphetamine (small doses - tried myself)
...
Lucky bast*rd!!!
Well, yesterday I have also tried MDMA+Amphetamine mix.
But lower doeses that I really need - because I didn't have planned it
for this evening.
So I took it as one shoot in a bomb(capsule). Mixed together,
something around 60mg of MDMA
and a 20mg of Amphetamine - that I get on the street.
The mix was administrated orally - after sometime i felt okey,
without 'asleep effect' - it was nice anyway.
But amount of a mix was too low for me, to feel how the mix (75%
MDMA/25% Amphetamine) really works and today I can't rate or
describe a quality of this "juice".
.. still no euphory effect (bk-MDMA works fine).
3. Program for recovery after Loss of Magic
(don't know if this will works)
I thought about possibility of transcription of DNA, as previously
mentioned and I did some research.
I decided to take a try some theraphy on my rats(friends) and send
them all to Silas'es recovery therapy program called: "God bless
MDMA".
I'm going to give my patients 5-HTP and L-Dopa in a small doses
over a half a week.
After a short break, maybe full 3-days, I will give them 120-130mg
of pure-MDMA. These doeses I'm going to apply even for a 20 years
old, with a weight around 50kg girl - still not sure, because it
might be dangerous, especially when she's gonna be fully loaded of
serotonine and dopamine after the program.
So here are details for 10 days:
at morning:
breakfast with Magnesium, Vitamin B-6, B-12 and C
30 minutes after:
2x capsule (100mg?) of Keizen's 5-HTP - which contains 50mg of 5-
HTP and other Ingredients: Cellulose, Magnesium Stearate, Silicon
Dioxide, Gelatin (capsule).
During a day at same time:
15-30 minutes of physical exercise program (increase effects of
L-Dopa)
At night:
1x capsule (400mg) of "DOPA Mucuna" from Now Foods - it contains
120mg of L-Dopa
1x glass of quality Orange Juice - 200-300ml (see note bellow)
Cons/Warnings/Dangerous (2):
- "elevated levels of serotnin stored in dopaminergic neurons"
- "converted it to Dopamine, and stored it in serotonergic neurons!
Holy cow!"
source: Bluelight.ru, shortlink: http://goo.gl/pDCPO
Note from research (1):
- (L-Dopa) if the patient has a low level of carbon in his body,
then L-Dopa additionally should be administrated with
glucose/sugars to prevent hypoglycemia (low blood sugar).
Orange Juice should help in this case for all users.
In my opinion this does not help at all, especially when bk-MDMA
works fine. But would like to try it. The key to the success might
be sport!
4. Placebo effect and new clean rats
Okey I have three guys who are purely clean and they didn't tried
drugs yet. (~20-24 years old).
They are waiting for best moment :) So here it comes!
I decided to make some experiment with them and
rest groups that failed previous working of MDMA.
I'm going to give them on a closed party with their favorite music
MDMA+Amphetamine mix, but with a small amount of Amphetamine.
As a one shoot bomb: 100mg MDMA and 15-20mg Amphetamine
Placebo 1: After 1 hour, I'm going to open doors for 1st group
of previous tester and give them 5 minutes to talk with new one.
Then I'll apply them same mixture.
Placebo 2: After next 1 hour, I'm going to open doors,
but for 2nd group of previous tester. And I'm going to give them
only 125mg of MDMA without Amphetamine!!!
And in a future I'm also planning to do some test on a 3rd group
and give them pills that contains only MDMA 60-90mg.
This could be interesting, when I'm going to give them pills
with a smile. After a while going to say: "Hellooo, this is ecstasy" :)
First I need to find a pills - hard to find some good stuff to make
some tests.
I have also report from other users with same MDMA, that it was really OK, but different then bk-MDMA - no bliss and with smaller euphoria, but working perfect! Their feelings and whole the trip matches 100% the MDMA trip. But these are only 2 people, where each group(3) of unhappy testers have 3 persons.
2 satisfied / 9 not satisfied
Still there is a question ... what happen in Poland or with that people. Is there some shit in a food or WTF?
I didn't heard about something like that before. And I'm going to find an answer and way to cure them.
Thanks
Best regards
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lol,
i call him doctor SILAS.!! ;) 8)
my conclusion, more A less is.
from extascy , u get more pep .ass in the most pills there are, amphetamine . [ better for A rave, festival. ]
MDMA ; is more A house, party drugs , wen it kick in u get high , a sleepy feeling. don,t want to talk,
then wen u come down, U start talking , and dont stop...lol. :D
AA 8)
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hahaha :)
yes i know how it should work, but for some reason, people are expecting something else and they doesn't experience euphoric feeling - don't know why :(
thanks AA for everything
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hahaha :)
yes i know how it should work, but for some reason, people are expecting something else and they doesn't experience euphoric feeling - don't know why :(
thanks AA for everything
possibley too 5htp...it dulls the experience if you don't stop taking it a day or 2 before your ingestion of MDA or MDMA....also the stomachs of the subjects should be empty at least 6 hours from last meal or else the mdma is more than likely not to come into full effect.
:D
nomad bloodbath